Fake VS Real

[jjm4life]

as a personal choice, i only rock real wheels. i hate anything knockoff and dont like that there are people making money off of someone else's ideas/designs.

when i had my evo people asked me all the time if my advans were rotas.. i hated it.
rocking toybox48 wheels on my lotus. im sure only the wheel whores have even heard of this tiny ass shop. love the wheels. look sick, crazy light, very rare.
i understand why people buy rotas ect.. its just not something id ever do.

[240BENZO]

right thats totally legit..just the guys who get REAL wheels is to make their dick bigger--which is a real drag cus they are out there

[Dangler]

"There are only so many ways to skin a cat" or something like that.

Many wheel companies have similar wheel designs, they all have a mesh, a 5-spoke, a 6-spoke, etc. You get the point. With that said, ADV.1 has designs that have been done before and they charge big $$$$ money and no one complains. Intro Forged, DPE, HRE, Forgeline, all have similar wheels, but no one complains one is copying the other. Its okay, because they charge a lot of money for their wheels.

Then people complain when someone makes an affordable wheel that looks like something expensive. I've only had two set of Reps (BBS Lm's on my Audi and Caractere Porsche Turbo Reps on my VW). They were 1-piece cast wheels and they were excellent quality, and surprising light for cast wheels. I've hit everything in the book with my cast wheels and never had a blow out, or cracked a wheel. Then again it depends on how you drive and hit a pot hole.

I've spent close to 4g's on a set 3-piece forged wheels, that weren't all that light, and shook like crazy in the rain, because they trapped water in the inner barrel due to the barrel design (and this barrell design is commonly found on a lot of 3-piece forged wheels with a flat lip).

Though this is my personal experience, and i know there are people out there that have had the opposite. I'd rock Rota's no problem. They look better that TE-37's, and are more affordable, that makes them attactive to me. and that is just me, and my opinion. But at the same token, I have a few other wheels i'm looking at, that are 3-4g before tires.

What it comes down to is what you do to the rest of the car to incorporate the wheels. you can have a set of ADV.1 that cost 7g's before tires on a sedan on stock off-road height suspension and it looks like shit. or a set of Rota's on an car with coils, and look a lot nicer. But more importantly, you should do a wheel that you like, fake or real.

[Roy@Canibeat]

very good points in here.

Some photos i found on google.
fake volks stickers on rotas. lol


Varrstoen decided to target the Volk CE28 as their next replica



ouch..

[jjm4life]

id rock rotas before adv.1 thats for damn sure.

sucks for me cause there are so few good manufacturers making 16in wheels that clear my brakes. CCW was basically the only company that would even humor the idea, but they were too heavy.

a bunch of lotus track guys rock rotas... i just cant imagine putting them on my car.

[VinceSpec]

i am a bit surprised how many people are actually ok with fakes. Fake wheels take business away from companies that actually put in the research and development into their products.
i could never imagine putting cheap wheels on any of my cars, mostly from a safety standpoint, but also, as a designer, i dont have much respect for a company that copies designs and attempts to make them their own.

innovation is what drives the automotive industry.

[Future_gohan]

i am a bit surprised how many people are actually ok with fakes. Fake wheels take business away from companies that actually put in the research and development into their products.
i could never imagine putting cheap wheels on any of my cars, mostly from a safety standpoint, but also, as a designer, i dont have much respect for a company that copies designs and attempts to make them their own.

innovation is what drives the automotive industry.

I would never wait my whole life to buy wheels, I can buy wheels now, that look nice and sit right, then later on get wheels that are legit and the whole works, not everyone has money to blow on wheels that are worth more than they're car. it's how life it.

[ColdxFront]

This is a subject I'm giving a lot of thought to with regards to my car at the minute.

Like most people, I have rent and bills to pay and I'm on a limited budget.
For the purposes of this arguement, what are we classing as fake, just ripped wheel design, or 1 piece original design wheels with fake split bolts as well?

I'd have no real issues with buying 1 piece cast wheels, (I'd steer clear of ripped designs if possible though, as I think that it's wrong to allow companies to expend so much on R&D/Design only to be copied a few months down the line by a less expensive imitation - as much as competition is healthy I just think it's stupid in this case) as they allow people to run wide wheels on a fairly reasonable budget.

My problem lies with these though:

Keskin KT1's. I like the design, and they are very much within my budget compared with all the other current contenders. However, ever since getting into stance, I've had the unshakeable feeling that fake split's are, for want of a better way of putting it, gay.

I think I'd rather wait and sit my car on Schmidts, but this pushes my projected time line way back, so I'm just not sure.

[chrisdavis@canibeat]

Buy what you can afford and what makes you happy, just don't be a poser.

Don't say your rep stuff is real
Don't pretend your car is fast and/or functional if it isn't (be proud of what you've built for what it is, etc)
Stuff like that.

I think Keskins look really good in person.

[jsu1012]

Buy what you can afford and what makes you happy, just don't be a poser.

Don't say your rep stuff is real
Don't pretend your car is fast and/or functional if it isn't (be proud of what you've built for what it is, etc)
Stuff like that.

nuff said.

[anthony@canibeat]

im sorta glad noone has brought up the idea that rotas will break and disintegrate on you cuz just recently i smacked a curb at like 30mph with my rotas and nothing cracked. just some FAT curbage. lololol

but anyways..... when i got into the scene i wanted wheels asap. i didnt know any better so i bought rotas since they offered 10's in 5x100. 10s in a low offset in 5x100 at an affordable price is FKEN hard to find! i didnt rly give a fk about rocking rotas at the time so i was like fk it, ill get em. i never did once say theyre the volk ce28s. amazingly a lot of people actually have come up to me and asked me if they were. i just put a huge smile on my face and say, "nahhhh i wish! ahaha theyre just rotas." they always go, "OH ok. they look good!"

im pretty sure ill end up buying another set of rotas in the future. imean theyre good DD wheels. if i had works on my car when i hit that fat curb, id kill myself. that was actually the first time i was glad i had rotas hahaha. but anyways, in my eyes, if it has the fitment and price youre lookin for, GO FOR IT.

i dont rly care if theyre reps or not. there are plenty of clean ass rides out there rockin affordable name brands and i dont hate. i looks good. i dont mind seeing them on toyotas, drift cars, hondas and all but if i see like a bimmer or merc rockin linea corses or something then i go ehhh for a sec. if they sit flush and/or look good then its alllll goooooooooooooood! =]

[240BENZO]

i am a bit surprised how many people are actually ok with fakes. Fake wheels take business away from companies that actually put in the research and development into their products.
i could never imagine putting cheap wheels on any of my cars, mostly from a safety standpoint, but also, as a designer, i dont have much respect for a company that copies designs and attempts to make them their own.

innovation is what drives the automotive industry.

i totally disagree with this if its referring to only wheels that arent big companies and not those who are repping a fake as the real deal--not sure which one ur meaning..
only cus xxr obviously researches and tests their stuff by real pros..
no other 'reps' sell 18x10.5+20 as far as i know for around 200 a wheel plus has pro drivers drifting on their cars.
but dont carry around your glock 9 and call it an ak-47! haha

[Salty991]

im sorta glad noone has brought up the idea that rotas will break and disintegrate on you cuz just recently i smacked a curb at like 30mph with my rotas and nothing cracked. just some FAT curbage. lololol

but anyways..... when i got into the scene i wanted wheels asap. i didnt know any better so i bought rotas since they offered 10's in 5x100. 10s in a low offset in 5x100 at an affordable price is FKEN hard to find! i didnt rly give a fk about rocking rotas at the time so i was like fk it, ill get em. i never did once say theyre the volk ce28s. amazingly a lot of people actually have come up to me and asked me if they were. i just put a huge smile on my face and say, "nahhhh i wish! ahaha theyre just rotas." they always go, "OH ok. they look good!"

im pretty sure ill end up buying another set of rotas in the future. imean theyre good DD wheels. if i had works on my car when i hit that fat curb, id kill myself. that was actually the first time i was glad i had rotas hahaha. but anyways, in my eyes, if it has the fitment and price youre lookin for, GO FOR IT.

i dont rly care if theyre reps or not. there are plenty of clean ass rides out there rockin affordable name brands and i dont hate. i looks good. i dont mind seeing them on toyotas, drift cars, hondas and all but if i see like a bimmer or merc rockin linea corses or something then i go ehhh for a sec. if they sit flush and/or look good then its alllll goooooooooooooood! =]

yo man couldnt agree more with this comment more.

[coneklr]

I agree with the keeping it real comments Even when I didn't have much money I just searched until I found a used set that I really liked. They might of not been in 100% mint shape but I felt happier and sold most of them for what I paid for them which is something that would be harder to do with reps. That being said I would never knock anyone for buying replica wheels as different people have different values and who am i to tell them different. But I agree you shouldn't pretend their real either.

[240BENZO]

i just hate people knocking REP companies cus they make similar products that cost half to a quarter of the price..xxr/isis products on this car--cheap chinese crap that didnt get researched and studied before it was made? seriously doubt it
Hope this helps...


my 240 cost 1000k with like 250k miles on the chassis
spending more than that on my wheels isnt a priority yet

[ducaroo89]

im sorta glad noone has brought up the idea that rotas will break and disintegrate on you cuz just recently i smacked a curb at like 30mph with my rotas and nothing cracked. Just some fat curbage. Lololol

but anyways..... When i got into the scene i wanted wheels asap. I didnt know any better so i bought rotas since they offered 10's in 5x100. 10s in a low offset in 5x100 at an affordable price is fken hard to find! I didnt rly give a fk about rocking rotas at the time so i was like fk it, ill get em. I never did once say theyre the volk ce28s. Amazingly a lot of people actually have come up to me and asked me if they were. I just put a huge smile on my face and say, "nahhhh i wish! Ahaha theyre just rotas." they always go, "oh ok. They look good!"

im pretty sure ill end up buying another set of rotas in the future. Imean theyre good dd wheels. If i had works on my car when i hit that fat curb, id kill myself. That was actually the first time i was glad i had rotas hahaha. But anyways, in my eyes, if it has the fitment and price youre lookin for, go for it.

i dont rly care if theyre reps or not. There are plenty of clean ass rides out there rockin affordable name brands and i dont hate. I looks good. I dont mind seeing them on toyotas, drift cars, hondas and all but if i see like a bimmer or merc rockin linea corses or something then i go ehhh for a sec. If they sit flush and/or look good then its alllll goooooooooooooood! =]

yes!

[Rick]

I have personally never met someone who lied about their fake wheels as being real wheels, I don't think it happens as much as people on forums describe it. I'm sure we would all prefer real wheels, but when you're considering what wheels to get for your $3000 accord or $3000 240sx, it's hard to justify a set of $3800 volks and there is nothing wrong with rotas.

[Rick]

i am a bit surprised how many people are actually ok with fakes. Fake wheels take business away from companies that actually put in the research and development into their products.
i could never imagine putting cheap wheels on any of my cars, mostly from a safety standpoint, but also, as a designer, i dont have much respect for a company that copies designs and attempts to make them their own.

innovation is what drives the automotive industry.

I think the companies out there like varrstoen that makes a wheel that's identical to volk's te37, but only charges 25% of what volk does is pretty innovative.

[ColdxFront]

I think the companies out there like varrstoen that makes a wheel that's identical to volk's te37, but only charges 25% of what volk does is pretty innovative.

The wheels aren't identical though. They might be identical aesthetically, but TE37's are forged alloys and most cheap replica's are just cast, hence the higher price tag (and the branding, obviously).

[uncommon yota]

theres a saying "the more you pay for something the better the quality" it does not apply to all cases but with wheels i think they do i got no problem with reps. but you get alot more looks and a level of respect to be rollin around in $300+ a wheel, set